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AXIOM Beta Announcement

Submitted by Sebastian on Wed, 04/09/2014 - 18:30

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Last NAB without apertus°?

We would really have loved to visit Las Vegas this year in order to demonstrate our AXIOM Alpha prototype in front of an audience outside of Europe - in fact, we even had invitations to do so in two separate booths there.
Unfortunately, we are not in a position where we can afford the cost of flying several people to the United States of America and cover one week's accommodations for them. We simply cannot justify spending that much of the funds we have received as donations so far on a trip like this.
Most of those funds have already been spent on the development of AXIOM Alpha and we have no intentions of stopping there.
But as usual, we do not require a large booth at the NAB show-floor to make a huge announcement. (By the way, there are a number of major companies who could easily afford to rent space and set up a booth there, but have also decided not to attend this trade show)





Announcing: The AXIOM Beta

So, before we show you what's coming up next, just imagine you're walking up to our booth at the NAB Showfloor - it's all there, the cheering crowd, exciting gear and great people all around us ...

That being said, we hereby announce the AXIOM Beta!
It will be smaller and cheaper, exhibiting far more streamlined features that are much better suited for shooting, testing and development purposes than the AXIOM Alpha could ever be.
This time we need your contribution to make it happen, as we will start a crowd funding campaign to cover hardware and software development. We plan to start with an initial batch of approximately 250 cameras once we know that the design actually works, and this first batch will be exclusively reserved for crowd-funding backers. Each of those cameras will have a degree of personalization possible.


AXIOM Beta's planned features include:
  • HDMI Full HD (4:4:4) output at up to 60 FPS
  • 4K raw output via experimental HDMI formats
  • Capture full resolution, full bitdepth raw still images to MicroSD card
  • Remote control of all camera functions from smartphone, tablet, laptop
  • Power management and monitoring (e.g. voltage, current, temperature)
  • Highly customizable via modular I/O addons (e.g. SDI)
  • Accelerometer, magnetometer and gyroscope e.g. for image stabilization
  • Different lens mount options (e.g. Nikon F-mount, EF and M4/3)
  • Wide input voltage range (5-40V)
  • Very lightweight and compact ~110x60x50mm
  • Embedded Linux (e.g. Raspian, ArchLinux)
  • LUTs, matrix color conversion, FPN compensation, false color display, overlays, dead pixel compensation
  • Using Microzed board (instead of Zedboard used in AXIOM Alpha)

In Retrospective: The AXIOM Alpha

As you may know, the AXIOM Alpha is our proof of concept prototype for the future AXIOM platform. While it was a great way to showcase our concept and verify that the chosen technical approach for building a cinema camera like this works, it has also revealed some shortcomings and a few problems with the chosen components - specifically the Zedboard hardware, which has turned out to be unsatisfactory for this task.

We've also had a large number of developers and hackers willing to buy a complete AXIOM Alpha, however the high component cost (mostly due to the CMV12000 image sensor) and the difficulty in replicating our custom designed enclosure and lens mount have prevented this from happening on a large scale.

Finally, there are the form factor and size of the Zedboard resulting in a bulky and problematic enclosure with a rather unfortunate placement of sensor and lens mount.


Who is the AXIOM Beta for?

While there are some companies out there who trick their customers into paying premium prices for a beta product, eventually ruining their entire project, this is not how we work, so we want to make sure that you know exactly what you are going to receive. Actually, we want to make sure that you are aware of what you are getting yourself into right from the beginning! The AXIOM Beta is a BETA product (which can clearly be deduced from its name). There will be bugs and other issues for sure, but we are confident that with your help, your experience and last but not least your input, we will hunt down every single one of them and turn it into a feature.

Of course, as always, there is the small possibility that the AXIOM Beta will work flawlessly from day one, but there is no guarantee that it won't fail miserably first. Nothing can be perfect right away, and our drive towards perfection may require some time and a number of firmware upgrades before all aspects of the Beta's operation are running smoothly.
We're inviting you to be part of this journey, not as a passive bystander but rather as a contributor at the forefront of progress shaping the final product. In return for your assistance, we're offering the hardware at cost, which brings us to the next point:


work-in-progress PCB concept design of the AXIOM Beta image sensor module

What will the AXIOM Beta cost?

Backers who support the AXIOM Beta development in the crowd funding campaign with a minimum amount of 350 EUR / 485 USD or more will receive the AXIOM Beta (including all the necessary I/O modules) for manufacturing costs only (i.e. material and assembly), at approximately 550 EUR / $760 USD (without image sensor, see table below).
But rest assured, no matter what hardware options you choose, you will only pay for the materials, assembly and shipping. Naturally, if we manage to attract more backers than initially planned, the cost of production per unit will be reduced and everyone will get to pay less. The main focus of this campaign is to find early adopters and get the hardware into the hands of hackers and developers. Once our product matures, you can expect the AXIOM camera to grow in complexity along with its feature set and price. For this reason, it is unlikely that future AXIOM models will be as affordable as what we are offering in the AXIOM Beta crowd funding campaign.


Upgrade Path

If you decide to upgrade your AXIOM Beta to a successive product (e.g., say, the AXIOM Gamma, if we continue using the greek alphabet naming scheme), the main (and most expensive) component, the sensor, can very likely be reused. The Microzed is also an independent product and can be utilized for other projects or resold again.


Image Sensor Choice

In the beginning, we will create an AXIOM Beta using the Truesense KAC12040, as we would like to gain experience with another image sensor than the one featured in the AXIOM Alpha. Once this is working, we'll start adding additional image sensor options based upon what the majority of people in our community are interested in. This sensor may come from Cmosis, Truesense or a different manufacturer, as long as they provide datasheets and use compatible interfaces. Please cast your vote below to give us an idea of which options would be preferred.


Cmosis CMV12000


Resolution 4096 x 3072
Optical format Super35/APS-C
Frame rate 300 fps (10 bit)
180 fps (12 bit)
Dynamic range 10 F-stops, up to 15 F-stops (HDR)
Shutter Global
Truesense KAC12040

Resolution 4000 x 3000
Optical format 4/3"
Frame rate 70 fps
Dynamic range 12 F-stops (Rolling Shutter)
9.3 F-stops(Global Shutter)
Shutter Global & Rolling
Cmosis CMV8000

Resolution 3360 x 2496
Optical format 4/3"
Frame rate 104 fps (10 bit)
Dynamic range 10 F-stops, up to 15 F-stops (HDR)
Shutter Global
The following prices are indicative of these image sensors in single quantities. In higher volumes, their cost is slightly reduced. Add the approximately 550 EUR / $760 USD base cost of the AXIOM Beta to the cost of the image sensor to get an idea of the total price. Another possibility might be purchasing engineering grade sensors (containing defects as they did not pass quality assurance) at further reduced prices for developers.

Which image sensor would you get in your Axiom Beta camera?

Cmosis CMV12000 + 1300€/ 1800$
76% (564 votes)
Cmosis CMV8000 + 400€/ 550$
14% (102 votes)
Truesense KAC12040 + 650€/ 890$
8% (61 votes)
Total votes: 742


When will the crowd funding campaign start

Soon, so stay tuned, as we will share further details about the AXIOM Beta once we have finished the EU Horizon 2020 grant application. At present, we need all of our eyes, minds and energy focused on completing the documents for this program.

Project: 
AXIOM Beta

72 Comments

11 years ago
David

You should put the "Upgrade

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You should put the "Upgrade Path" text before the votes pool... It's very useful to know that we can keep the beta sensor ot further camera models :)

11 years ago
Sebastian

Good idea! Done.

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Good idea! Done.

11 years ago
Adam

I think you guys should also

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I think you guys should also take a look at Aptina sensors. The newest 1" sensor from them, the AR1411, does 4k60p and 1080p120. In fact, it can do higher than 4k60p

Dynamic range of 79db, which would be around 13 stops I believe. Doesn't say if it is global shutter or rolling shutter though, nor the bits per channel, but you can find that out with the datasheet.

https://www.aptina.com/products/dslr/ar1411hs/

Looks like an impressive little sensor.

11 years ago
Stefan

Thanks Adam for your

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Thanks Adam for your suggestion. I would primary buy the Apertus for slow motion video. 1080p@120 sounds interesting, would love to see the pricing compared.

11 years ago
houssem

great features thanx for

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great features thanx for sharing

11 years ago
Tzedekh

The Aptina has a rolling

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The Aptina has a rolling shutter and encodes at 12 bits.

11 years ago
Rob

There are many choices but a

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There are many choices, but a Module (with User programmable Interface) beats a raw Sensor for plug-and-play.

It is like having a Desktop Computer with a PCI Bus, just plug in any Graphics Card and Monitor. Compare that to a Laptop where you are stuck with the Graphics Chip and Laptop Screen (unless your a real Tech Geek and could upgrade them).

With a Module you simply pull it and replace it with another one from the same Company OR a different Company (once an Interface Protocol is decided upon).

That leaves the Camera's User Interface (Menu) and physical container (Camera Case) to be worked on and the finicky business of reading the Sensor up to the people who actually make the Sensor (they should know what is best for their Sensor, just as WE know what we want our "Box" to look like and what it should do).

Suggestions for a "Module":

1. Aptina Q-12A65, Pixel size: 5.5 μm, Global shutter, 60dB or 90dB in HDR, 8 or 10 Bits, 66 FPS, and Interface is Camera Link.
2. Teledynedalsa FA-81-4M180, Pixel Size 6 µm, Global shutter, 8 or 10 Bits, Max. Frame Rate 168 fps, Full/Ext Mini-Camera Link
3. etc.

There are SO MANY choices and it makes the tough part easy, leaving only the other tough part (the Case). Software upgrades can change the Camera's UI making it truly open source. A few years down the road just toss the Camera Module and put in a much better one.

If you make it Super-Plug-and-Play the end-User can swap Modules On-The-Fly and take exactly the Camera they want to the shoot they are going to; how great would that be ?

That means you have one (or time to make two) Camera Bodies and a dozen (or more) choices of Sensor Module available to suit ANY need -- more people satisfied means more people PAY (which is what you need). Cut your workload and expand your Market.

References:

Aptina Q-12A65: http://www.adimec.com/en/Service_Menu/Industrial_camera_products/High_pe...

Teledynedalsa FA-81-4M180: http://www.teledynedalsa.com/imaging/products/cameras/area-scan/falcon2/...

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Rob: http://www.youtube.com/user/LowLightVideos

11 years ago
julian correa

the nikon 1 cameras have very

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the nikon 1 cameras have very impressive video output using the burst mode and aptina sensor http://vimeo.com/62412527

11 years ago
Pablo

Excited! Very excited!

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Excited! Very excited!

11 years ago
Richard Cave

Thank you for this concept

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Thank you for this concept and its refreshing that you admit its a beta and that you will support purchasers with firmware upgrades. Shame on other companies that dont. You know who you are!!!

Looking forward to what and where this leads to, as I am fed up with paying a premium for a silk screen printed name on anodized aluminium. This looks like a really worthwhile project,

11 years ago
Adam

Super35mm over 4/3" any day

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Super35mm over 4/3" any day every day.

11 years ago
Peter Gabriel Pitrone

I agree fully with this

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I agree fully with this statement!!

11 years ago
Treehousedaddy

Unless you shoot anamorphic

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Unless you shoot anamorphic

11 years ago
Bruce Allen

Brilliant move - and good

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Brilliant move - and good luck! I'm proud to have donated those 100 Euros back in Dec 31, 2012 when you were getting started. Now I can't wait to put my name down for a camera. I like the honesty that you bring to the camera industry. Also... the lack of arrogance. I'm tired of having the camera manufacturers making bad decisions for me (poor ergonomics, poor reliability, not taking full advantage of the sensor) and think it might be way more fun to play with your camera and see if I can make some mistakes of my own :)

If you are looking at other sensors, definitely consider the Altasens S35 60p (and higher) sensor that is being used in JVC's upcoming cameras, as well as pretty much anything 4K that Sony offers. Low noise, high dynamic range and good color filters are important. However the 4:3 aspect ratio, crazy high frame rate and global shutter of the CMV12000 should make things fun to play with for me for now...

10 years ago
Sebastian

Altasens is not interested in

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Altasens is not interested in releasing the datasheet of their image sensors without an NDA so their products are no option for the AXIOM.

So far there are only two manufacturers that agreed to publish the full datasheet of their image sensors are Truesense and Cmosis.

For the AXIOM it's essential that the documentation of used parts is available to everybody

11 years ago
Michael Maggs

So far it has some amazing

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So far it has some amazing specs. Very good. The only thing I question is why MicroSD?
Surely this is not by choice. I'm guessing that it just happens to be on the board?

11 years ago
Sebastian

It is done by choice and

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It is done by choice and because it requires very little space. The goal is to make the Axiom Beta small and lightweight for still photography.

11 years ago
spanishfly

I'm sure this is way off beam

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I'm sure this is way off beam for some, but selfishly I'd like to use Leica M glass with an axiom body. Is this a possibility?

11 years ago
Sebastian

Micro Four Thirds to Leica M

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Micro Four Thirds to Leica M Adapter and you are ready to go.

10 years ago
davidak

I also would like to have a

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I also would like to have a SD Card-Slot too.
As a still photographer i have lots of SD Cards but not a single microSD.
Maybe in the final product?

Will this Camera be an alternative for a DSLR like the Nikon D600?
I would like to have a module for a hand grip like the nikons have with a display and shutter button and an accurate auto focus system with phase detection.

Also some advanced digital manual focus systems like split image and peak would be nice to have.
http://youtu.be/7FR3l6S12JA

11 years ago
Ovidiu M

Hi

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Hi
I'm using Linux since 2008 and admire your project.
If the price range will remain as you've mentioned and you'll have a super 35 sensor I'll put money on the project
Best regards
www.cinematographer.ro

11 years ago
Boet Hehuat

I can't wait!! Please look at

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I can't wait!! Please look at Aaton for design and formfactor (aja just did) . The cat on the shoulder idea. It makes for beter balanced shots. Not just horizontally but tilt-wise also.
Please just keep it simple. And please ad an EVF like the SI2k one .. ( it was the first oled evf i think and it was very small no interference between the camera-operator and the subject. you can use the left eye to scope the environment whilst still staying in contact with your evf for critical framing).
OKOK I'll shut up now.
Thanks!!

11 years ago
matray

Ikonoskop form factor is also

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Ikonoskop form factor is also very interesting...

11 years ago
boet hehuat

yup

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yup

11 years ago
Mark Bloomfield

I second looking at Aaton for

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I second looking at Aaton for form factor, was the most comfortable 16mm camera to work with. Let's get back to building cameras for the operator. Where the camera becomes part of the body, enabling fluid shooting for documentary work. Also agree about the need for a good viewfinder, I always shoot with both eyes open!

11 years ago
boet Hehuat

Hear, hear...

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Hear, hear...

11 years ago
ronio bitz

yes Aaton beautifull cameras.

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yes Aaton beautifull cameras.

11 years ago
Treehousedaddy

Wide dynamic range (14-15

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Wide dynamic range (14-15 stops, please), comfort for the operator, simplicity of set up without needing to buy complex aftermarket kit, small size. I agree that an EVF is much more useful than a monitor. When you reach mid-40s eyesight changes and monitors are not good for field work. Thank you for what you are doing. Watching with interest.

11 years ago
Jay Webster

Another big thumbs up for the

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Another big thumbs up for the Aaton form factor

11 years ago
remoran

Honesty is a good thing. I

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Honesty is a good thing. I like the notion of high end stills in conjunction with 4K as it's a natural fit as many videographers, such as myself, use stills in 4/C print as well as in inserts in video. Your approach is very sound without question.

11 years ago
Denis

Does CMV12000 support ROI? If

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Does CMV12000 support ROI? If so, what speed could be achieved for 2K resolution ( ROI, not binning)?
Regards,
denis.glinsky(at)gmail.com

11 years ago
Sebastian

Yes, but only in vertical

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Yes, but only in vertical direction, speed roughly increases with the amount of skipped lines, so 3072->1080 would roughly equal a 3x speed factor. Though there are no HDMI recorders that support higher FPS.

11 years ago
Jonathan Chew

Is there a place we can sign

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Is there a place we can sign up for updates?

11 years ago
Sebastian

Yes, our newsletter in the

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Yes, our newsletter in the right sidebar or here: https://apertus.org/newsletter

11 years ago
David G

Is there synch for

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Is there synch for stereoscopic dual-camera shooting?

11 years ago
Sebastian

We are looking into it yes.

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We are looking into it yes.

11 years ago
Valeriu

I have voted for the s35

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I have voted for the s35 sensor, but i'd like to add the aptina to the list. Paired with a Speedbooster can be very interesting option.

11 years ago
Valeriu

Please consider the Aaton or

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Please consider the Aaton or Ikonscope form factor and the possibility of using some of the OLED EVF add on viewfinders offered in mirrorless cameras like Sony, Olympus....

11 years ago
Valeriu

I have voted for s35 sensor

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I have voted for s35 sensor but I would like to see the Aptina as an option as well. Paired with something like a speedbooster, it is an amazing outcome.

11 years ago
Valeriu

It would be great using the

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It would be great using the new OLED EVF viefinders offered in mirroless cameras from Sony, Olympus...

11 years ago
Valeriu

If ROI can be selected in

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If ROI can be selected in direction position only, can a wide screen crop of 1:2.35 or 1:2.40 be implemented?

11 years ago
Valeriu

There are suggestions/rumours

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There are suggestions/rumours that the Aptina sensor will be in the new Blackmagic Studio HD models.

11 years ago
Valeriu

I'd love to see the Aaton -

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I'd love to see the Aaton - Ikonoskope form factor.

11 years ago
Valeriu

If a ND filter wheel is too

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If a ND filter wheel is too difficult/expensive to incorporate, a slot for gel filters can be a better option, similar to 16mm Bolex cameras and some long telephoto lenses from Canon, Nikon...

11 years ago
Gerald

Will under-cranking also be

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Will under-cranking also be included? This in some ways, is just as important as slow motion, but overlooked by so many cameras now...

11 years ago
Sebastian

We can basically output any

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We can basically output any arbitrary frame-rate but the limiting factor will likely be the HDMI recorder.

For timelapse you can capture single full resolution raw stills and save them camera internally though.

11 years ago
phil

Just reading your news feels

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Just reading your news feels allready like starting a new relationship: exited, keen on every further step, beeing "stoked" by the imagination what might be coming up.. Thanks for every effort till this point!

11 years ago
Hi

what is the price of this

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what is the price of this camera, i love to study one, make videos, make software :)

11 years ago
Kimon

How did you export the

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How did you export the footage you shot '' First Moving Image from apertus° Axiom Alpha prototype '' ? Did you use the sensor Truesense KAC12040 ? And one last question, did you manage to shoot at 70fps yet ? Keep up the amazing work !!
All the Best,

11 years ago
Sebastian

The Axiom Alpha prototype

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The Axiom Alpha prototype uses this image sensor: https://apertus.org/axiom_imagesensor
The bottleneck are HDMI recorders, we did not find any that can record higher than 30 FPS.
Thanks!

11 years ago
Dark_ata

the odyssey 7q over hdmi only

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the odyssey 7q over hdmi only record 30p, but using sdi support 4k 60p, only from canon, i think that you can speak with convergent design.

10 years ago
phil

something like the atomos

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something like the atomos shogun might become a way to capture the signal?!

10 years ago
Sebastian

potentially, yes

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potentially, yes

10 years ago
Cor

It's not possible to solve

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It's not possible to solve this internal with an ssd?

11 years ago
Glyn

How about the Dynamax DYN0174

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How about the Dynamax DYN0174 image sensor. Panavision sold their image sensor business, that business became Dynamax. Probably a bit more expensive though.

11 years ago
Sebastian

We have an NDA with Dynamax

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We have an NDA with Dynamax Imaging and acquired the datasheet, the price is a bit cheaper than the CMV12000 but the specs are pretty similar: http://www.dynamax-imaging.com/web/docs/products/DYN0174_brief.pdf

11 years ago
Matt

Will the Beta release be of

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Will the Beta release be of any interest to a cinematographer who isn't able to contribute much to software or hardware development? I figure the folks with those skills might benefit from being able to work with footage shot under a variety of lighting conditions.

I'll contribute regardless, but if I go all-in to purchase a camera, I'm hoping I could shoot some music videos or a short film with it.

I know it's hard to guess at this point, but I'm wondering if this initial release will mainly be for the engineers and coders.

11 years ago
Sebastian

Of course its for early

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Of course its for early adopter filmmakers as well, we are looking for feedback, suggestions, ideas and testing from film makers just as much as from developers. We just want to make sure people understand its not a finished product yet.

11 years ago
Wayne

I agree with the aptina

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I agree with the aptina sensor suggestion. I don't require much in a camera. This cheap digital cinema stuff, even though I am like it's uncle, is a red herring, professional video quality is the real aim for many. Those very small 4/3rds Panasonic lens with Aptina sensor would make a small camera for $1000 if you included a 2* ssd interface to record directly etc.

Now, HDMI recording might be currently limited to 4kp30, but provably not for long. However, thunderbolt recording to 4kp60 directly to a main board of a small or portable pc might be possible, or newer Ethernet standard at a cheaper price than an initial HDMI 4kp60 recorder.

However, can we just pack Bayer p48/50/60 into 4kp30 HDMI?

So a few possible solutions.

BTW, the encoding on the site is making the pages stall when first loaded.

11 years ago
Igor

From my point of view, the

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From my point of view, the Axiom should provide the best sensor at the best price point possible. It doesn't matter if the Axiom will cost up to 5000 EUR in total. As long as we get püerfect 4k & perfect SlowMo, this camera is worth even that price.

11 years ago
josh

are their other raw options

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are their other raw options in case I can't handle a 4k workflow yet, like 1080 or 2k raw?

11 years ago
Sebastian

Should be possible, we will

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Should be possible, we will investigate possibilities to embed raw data into a normal image stream to an external recorder. For example you can simply fill the 24bit RGB that pretty much all recorders understand with 2x12bit raw (not taking any chroma subsampling into account to simplify the concept here), so you can basically put two pixels into one which you can utilize to record 60 FPS raw in 30 FPS RGB. The downside is that the images requires post processing to recover the original raw data again and that while shooting on the external recorder the image looks defect so you cant use it for framing...

11 years ago
Jeffery Haas

All of it sounds good except

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All of it sounds good except the MicroSD card idea.
Small? Yes of course but the size difference between SD and MicroSD is minimal on camera but major out in the field when it is being handled. I am reminded of the miniDV cassettes and their vulnerability.
There's a diminishing point of return on miniaturization and I think one reaches it at the SD size unless we're talking phones.

Please consider staying with SD. Just small enough, but not so small that a puff of wind could scatter it to oblivion.

11 years ago
Wayne.

I think it could be cheaper

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I think it could be cheaper if you had a pool of a thousand people to buy a camera batch and sensor. They could use somebody like Sumix or Elphel to arrange manufacture cheaply. The sensor price is the main saving to look at. It is a shame that it could not be a batch of 10,000

Such a project might become a suitable platform for machine vision or high security cameras (such as government and casino's).

11 years ago
Wayne

Here is another idea, if a

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Here is another idea, if a simple file recorder to 2xssd or memory card were included, a simple case like the BMD pocket camera could be made by others, to carry the head with some buttons and an android device for screen control. But all we need to start is a file recorded to 2xssd/card in a module/internal The link to the android device can complete a portable test camera.

However, a big market is if this could POV record (even with a cheap sensor) but a proper cable is needed for professional production, such as action/car shots, or as a studio camera. Thunderbolt is probably the best option, as you can plug long optical cables in and direct DMA record to computer. Ethernet 10-40GB also an option, but not as broad reaching as TB in future

11 years ago
Wayne.

I'm going to put down three

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I'm going to put down three suggestions for companies for sensors.

Aptina mentioned before for low cost 4k video sensors, but a lot of quality for the price, as used in the Nikon 1 series. However, even a smaller cheap 4k sensor is useful for testing and developing for the platform.

Sigma Foveon video sensor they were supposed to be working on. Sigma also needs a high end motion camera platform.

Nokia.

11 years ago
Kurt Fillmore

Looking forward to the

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Looking forward to the crowdfunding campaign. Since HDMI recording may not be viable, especially for high/low frame rates, an SSD recording module is a MUST! The camera should be able to record footage directly, without requiring an outside product and the problems inherent with interfacing, powering, rigging, etc.

I could go for either the Cmosis or Truesense chips, the Truesense is cheaper and allows for choosing your priority- either dynamic range for landscape or dialog scenes, or global shutter for action sequences.

11 years ago
florin filimon

Hi Sebastian.

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Hi Sebastian.

Congratulations on the Axiom development project. I am following since long time this project and I would like to enroll in the beta phase.
My contribution/suggestion would be to have a spare electronic board for sensor mounting that would connect to the main board by cables. The reason is to be able to have the optical path paralel with the main board for flexible design. One such design will be usefull for drone mounting. If the optics and the sensor will be remotely mounted the gimbal will be smaller and the drone will increase in flight time as the gimbal motors will be smaller.

Hope my idea will help the project.

Good luck!

11 years ago
Sebastian

Hi Florin, thanks for the

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Hi Florin, thanks for the thumbs up.

What you suggest is not easily possible as the interface between sensor front end and processing hardware requires very high bandwidth and throughput and thus is not straightforward to route through a cable. But since the Axiom Beta is meant to be small and lightweight anyway maybe that already solves the problem.

11 years ago
Raul

I would love to promote this!

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I would love to promote this! We need to get the ball rolling on building awareness and attract individuals that could benefit from this. I see more ingenuity and sophistication from the backyard builders than the large mainstream corporations. The more we can sell the cheaper it can get, brilliant! I think that incorporating this approach into makerspaces will breed a new community of engineers and possible pioneers. In fact, I see large potential in making a robust portable model out of carbon fiber or a modular design that incorporates a phone as the primary processing engine. The phone for the avid and the full featured for the professional.

10 years ago
charlie boy

if we purchase the beta, do

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if we purchase the beta, do we have to purchase the sensor at the same time or just request the build option for the sensor we want incorporated?

10 years ago
Sebastian

You just tell us what sensor

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You just tell us what sensor you want and we will build your camera.

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